Gelvin v The Hon. Parker/Gelvin

Argument summary

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1. Counsel for the petitioner argues that the attorney-client privilege should not extend to independent communications between an attorney and a third-party witness unless the third party's participation is essential to the delivery of legal services or they act as an agent, rather than relying solely on the client's subjective belief in confidentiality.
2. The petitioner contends that the Akamazo precedent creates an unworkable standard by presuming non-waiver based on subjective belief, which shifts an impossible burden to opposing parties to prove the client did not believe communications were privileged.
3. Counsel for the respondent argues that the issue is one of waiver rather than the existence of privilege, asserting that the client's reasonable subjective belief in confidentiality, combined with objective reasonableness, should determine if the privilege is maintained despite third-party involvement.
4. The respondent suggests that physical presence or contemporaneous communication is not required for privilege to apply, but rather that the client must be involved in securing confidentiality, and that independent communications excluding the client may warrant in-camera review.
5. Both counsel addressed the issue of retroactivity, with the petitioner arguing that any change to Akamazo should apply prospectively only, while also maintaining that the specific communications in this case were not privileged under Akamazo regardless.
6. The respondent warned against retroactive application of a new rule, arguing it would undermine public reliance on established case law and potentially expose lawyers to malpractice claims for relying on prior precedent.

Recordings

1. Recording · PT1H14S · Captions available